Recently I had a business round at Wolf Point. We play the 8th as a warm up hole to get to the first tee. The 8th and 18th share one large 14,000 sft putting surface. In describing my hesitation to build a double green, he said "it would have been silly not to have done so". There have been so many gimmicky, goofy, ugly and unplayable double greens built in the modern era.
It turns out that our double green was going to prove it's authenticity today. Pictured below was the first time we played the green on our regulation round. My guest is putting from the 18th green towards my ball near the 8th hole. His shot drew a little too much and the swale exaggerated his miss. I took the pic mid shot, he wound up inside my ball. Nice pars.
(click the pictures for the bigger versions)
On the last hole of the day my approach ran a little long into the swale and my guest's ran quite a bit further, again the swale exaggerating his miss. Below is his next to last putt of the day, from the 8th green to the 18th hole. Proof that this green complex is no gimmick. Both greens are in play from both holes. Maybe next time we'll play to the opposite greens.
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Monday, July 2, 2012
Monday, June 4, 2012
An interesting putting green
In designing a pair of practice putting greens for a public course, I drew a set of green surfaces that included interesting, yet subtle contour. I was asked to redraw the green contours to be simple sloped planes to match those
on the course.
It is a valid request, but these putting greens are where the new player will first meet the golf course, or maybe any golf course. I'd rather it be an interesting meeting.
Their request inspired me to compose this quote:
One neat element of a creative putting green is you can always find a straight or flat putt on one, but the converse is not true.
You can never find a creative putt on a flat green.
-- Mike Nuzzo
The following videos, while very cool, show how predictable a flat planar surface can be:
It is a valid request, but these putting greens are where the new player will first meet the golf course, or maybe any golf course. I'd rather it be an interesting meeting.
Their request inspired me to compose this quote:
One neat element of a creative putting green is you can always find a straight or flat putt on one, but the converse is not true.
You can never find a creative putt on a flat green.
-- Mike Nuzzo
The following videos, while very cool, show how predictable a flat planar surface can be:
Wednesday, October 28, 2009
Green Contours
This weekend I got a very nice compliment from a visitor to Wolf Point. They thought the greens were excellent and not like so many they've seen before - unusual. Where a green may have flat areas separated by a slope - the greens within a green premise.
Our greens seemed so much more natural with the shapes blending and rolling and it made for so much more fun and imagination.
Subtle rolls and shapes like the ones pictured above, of the 5th green,
keep the strategy alive until the player is in the hole. With flat sections once the player picks a fairway side and hits their approach there is no strategy left.
With subtle movement the strategy applies to the putt or pitch to the hole as there is usually an aggressive and safer line to the hole.
Sunday, October 18, 2009
Green Theory Notes
There are no rules - the following are some observations from our work.
Greens fit the client and the business model, including maintenance goals
An open green front for run-up shots – few forced carries
Each green will be original and different from the rest and in the same family or seem related.
Proportional variation - some may look the same but play different.
Fit settings without any conspicuous or artificial mounding
Contours vary from subtle to bold – with no distinct levels or shelfs – more like soft organic folds
Accentuated by micro movement and drainage exit points in multiple locations
Simple circular mow patterns that would ideally blend into the subsequent teeing complex
Start with a minimum of pin settings and area based on amount of play
Rewarding of multiple approach angles based on client – front, left, right, back and multiple - which is generally accomplished with varying tilts and surface biases
(Based on client as a private club may have more greens that run away from the player)
Wolf Point is unique in total rounds will never be over a few thousand – so we designed as fun as possible – the client will be playing every single day – we needed to keep it interesting every day.
Preliminary sketches may look simple – but they are rather complex upon description
Their interest comes from the 3rd dimension
From above the greens appear as circles or ellipses – no squiggly mow lines creating artificial interest – same with the fairways.
Wolf Point greens are Emerald Bermuda – in fitting with the clients maintenance requirements
The immediate surrounds are also Emerald Bermuda – allowing for full circles and uniform water requirements
The greens mix was excavated from on site – at an installation cost of way less than $1 a ton. Morris Brown and an agronomist preferred the native materials over a spec mix.
Wolf Point is unique in total rounds will never be over a few thousand – so we designed as fun as possible – the client will be playing every single day – we needed to keep it interesting every day.
Preliminary sketches may look simple – but they are rather complex upon description
Their interest comes from the 3rd dimension
From above the greens appear as circles or ellipses – no squiggly mow lines creating artificial interest – same with the fairways.
Wolf Point greens are Emerald Bermuda – in fitting with the clients maintenance requirements
The immediate surrounds are also Emerald Bermuda – allowing for full circles and uniform water requirements
The greens mix was excavated from on site – at an installation cost of way less than $1 a ton. Morris Brown and an agronomist preferred the native materials over a spec mix.
The roots are currently over 8” long and performing great in this drought year.
The above two items saved approximately $500,000 at Wolf Point and will be a consideration for all my future warm season projects.
Greens should roll at speeds appropriate to the clientele and slope
At Wolf Point they will roll up to a 10+ and are VERY FIRM
Sizes range from 4,500 to 10,000 sft.
The above two items saved approximately $500,000 at Wolf Point and will be a consideration for all my future warm season projects.
Greens should roll at speeds appropriate to the clientele and slope
At Wolf Point they will roll up to a 10+ and are VERY FIRM
Sizes range from 4,500 to 10,000 sft.
Tuesday, March 10, 2009
Linksy
The 15th hole still looks docile to the new visitor. When Matt played, pictured above, the front pin looked very inviting. I told him to play a little short, and he wound up making one of his best swings of the day. Unfortunately it was a hair strong and the ball found the swale left of the green. No birdie for you.
A comment from recent visitor:
“… it is very, very linksy in play terms. Huge width. Unbelievably firm and bouncy. Lots of small scale contour that dominates your thinking in play. It is without doubt the most ground-oriented course I have seen in the US, and frankly outside the Old Course I doubt you'd find anything more so. Windy too.”
Monday, February 16, 2009
The 12th Green
Sunday, December 28, 2008
"What makes you think you can design a golf course?"
When I first started my journey from working as an aerospace engineer to golf course architect there were quite a few naysayers, bad advice givers and mostly those that didn't respond to calls or e-mails - all understandably so. And eventually there were many who were more than helpful - thank you.
On Friday a young man from Texas A&M met with me in my office about his potential future in the golf design business. I think some would say "Don't even consider it!" and would probably be accurate - it will be a tough road for anyone for the next few years. But I do think there is certainly room for an excellent project for me, just like I think there would be some opportunities for this young man to find an start. He didn't know what questions to ask yet, but I'm sure glad I was able to offer some suggestions with potential.
Pictured above is proof that even a small bunker can create a big penalty. It is me trying to hit the 2nd green.
Tuesday, December 9, 2008
Double Green
I don't think much of double greens outside of St. Andrews. These double greens, 8 & 18, just evolved. I kept shifting the 8th green during the routing process to minimize the walk to 9 tee. You can play to either one from either hole, and with the flag near the swale it is a trick shot. Hitting an approach on 18 can run long to the swale, and a slight pull on the long par 3 8th will also find the swale.
From the other direction:
Sunday, October 26, 2008
Wednesday, October 22, 2008
With Age Comes Wisdom
Tuesday, September 23, 2008
The 10th green complex
Thursday, August 28, 2008
The 10th for the first time...
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
Now for the 6th green
Tuesday, August 5, 2008
The 2nd Green from two perspectives
When I take a few steps back, and get a few feet in the air, the green changes completely (see below). I hope it is evident that the tee shot placement in the fairway matters a great deal.
From the left side of the fairway the right side of the green falls away from the approach, and from the right side of the fairway the left side of the green falls away.
Friday, August 1, 2008
The other side of the bunker
I got a very nice message saying that Wolf Point looked more like it was along the Firth of Forth (in Scotland) than along the Gulf of Mexico.
Thursday, July 10, 2008
15th from the ball's perspective
I'll make a post about the cameras as I learn more about them - every picture I've taken of the course was with an inexpensive pocket digital camera - and my new one is only slightly different.
I'll be back to the routings on Monday.
Friday, June 20, 2008
The 4th green
Friday, June 13, 2008
The U.S. Open is great for the best 156 golfers in the world...
But for the other 50,000,000 golfers in the world I can think of a better way to play every day or even occasionally...
The above picture is of the yet to be opened 1st green and its very appealing entrance (from the left). I was partly inspired by the large subtle opening green at Jasper Park. I took this picture yesterday and I have a lot more from the day in the coming weeks - it is bursting at the seams.
Why would YOU want to play a U.S. Open course on any other day?
Have a great Father's Day weekend!
Sunday, June 1, 2008
The 15th Green
Wednesday, May 7, 2008
I play safe on 6 ... for now.
When I show a picture from the tee - it will be obvious how tempting it is to play aggressive. Our client did both times on our round together - and made a great up and down one of the times, almost both actually.
The picture above is the back half of the 6th green, with a tee from 7 in the background.
And in honor of Pete Dye being elected to the Golf Hall of Fame.
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